tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post515028396253857079..comments2023-06-08T03:05:43.638-07:00Comments on Gay Married Californian: Marriage lite, againIThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-89878920553225409062010-07-08T13:13:23.298-07:002010-07-08T13:13:23.298-07:00Interesting. That is not the case in the US, prov...Interesting. That is not the case in the US, proving yet again that in some ways the EU ties its states together far closer than the USA does.IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-14759783023050140852010-07-07T23:52:25.471-07:002010-07-07T23:52:25.471-07:00The EU is a collection of independent nation state...The EU is a collection of independent nation states, they don't have to agree on things like this.<br />But they do recognise each other's legislation, so if you have pension rights as a surviving same sex spouse in England they will also be paid to you if you retire to any of the other EU countries, whatever their legislation on same sex relationships may be.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-74684215820472045592010-07-07T10:41:11.912-07:002010-07-07T10:41:11.912-07:00Well, it's very clear that the pacs in france ...Well, it's very clear that the pacs in france and the Austrian statute are "lesser". Since even the EU can't agree on a common standard, across all countries, I suggest to you that whatever your partnership means in the UK might be rather different than what it means when you visit France.<br /><br />I believe that the US will not recognize any same-sex relationships, you are right about that.IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-10623440963535152552010-07-07T03:12:33.068-07:002010-07-07T03:12:33.068-07:00Oh, now it's back!
How strange!
Ah, in that c...Oh, now it's back!<br />How strange!<br /><br />Ah, in that case, there are two issues. One is what the US does and doesn't recognise, the other is what the respective legal arrangementes mean in the countries where they are in force.<br /><br />Does the US recognise the marriages in the 6 EU states?<br />And would it recognise marriages between 2 US citizens if they had taken place in one of those 6 EU countries?<br /><br />But one of your points was that marriage-lite *is* pretend or practice marriage.<br />And that, certainly in Britain and Germany, is simply not the case.<br /><br />It's not about the name, it's about the legal set-up that lies behind the name.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-74142157289544337852010-07-06T10:32:51.668-07:002010-07-06T10:32:51.668-07:00Nope, Erika, I would never delete your comments.
...Nope, Erika, I would never delete your comments.<br /><br />The US does not recognize your civil union. So this actually is an issue.IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-88242164161176418592010-07-06T08:39:53.234-07:002010-07-06T08:39:53.234-07:00IT, did you delete the comment I posted here earli...IT, did you delete the comment I posted here earlier?<br />This strange thing is happening on a few blogs at the moment, where my comments are published as soon as I post them, and then disappear without a trace some time later.<br />I'd almost be happier to think they'd been deleted than that I have an invisible censor.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-77256399949992640982010-07-05T22:28:15.374-07:002010-07-05T22:28:15.374-07:00But please again, Civil Partnerships in Germany an...But please again, Civil Partnerships in Germany and in Britain are not marriage lite.<br />The have a different name, but all rights and responsibilities are the same.<br /><br />I know you have an agenda here, but seen from within Europe, it really isn't that simple.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271923532585508158.post-91764568718658674712010-07-05T19:35:14.784-07:002010-07-05T19:35:14.784-07:00Now, whose fault is that?
The Wingnuts will blame...<i>Now, whose fault is that?</i><br /><br />The Wingnuts will blame Teh Gays. It's a given.JCFnoreply@blogger.com