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The fight for marriage equality, from the perspective of a gay, married Californian
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There are a lot of posts on this blog. To highlight specific information, I've created a couple more permanent pages, derived from resources and posts on specific topics including children and religious arguments against marriage equality. These may be helpful in framing talking points. Let me know if there are other "shortcuts" you want to particular topics. And remember, the list of labels is on the left sidebar, that's a great way to find posts of interest.
Quote of the Day
Quote of the Day: Mike Gronstal, Iowa State Senate Majority Leader, in an interview
I’m not going to put to a vote of the people anybody’s constitutional rights. Because if I can do that to gay people, I can do it to Catholics, I can do it to Methodists, I can do it to Baptists, I can do it to blacks, I can do it to Hispanics. If I can put to a vote of the people, people’s constitutional rights, then you may be popular today – old white guys like us might be popular today and our rights will be fine – but someday the baby boom will be gone and there won’t be enough old white guys left to protect us from the tyranny of the majority.
Thursday, February 17, 2011
New Poll on marriage in California

Public Policy Polling has released a new poll on marriage in California.
When PPP last asked the question in September 2010, a 46% plurality was in support, but an almost equal 44% opposed these rights.
Democrats have remained remarkably stable, with two-thirds in support and a quarter opposed both then and now. The change has come among Republicans and independents. GOP voters have moved from 76-15 opposed to only 64-29, so their support for legal same-sex marriage rights has doubled in four months. Unaffiliated voters were, much like the electorate at large, only tepidly in support previously, at 47- 41, but have now moved to 51-35 in favor of gay marriage.
Both women and men have moved toward legalizing same-sex marriage by nine points on the margin. Women were already in support, 49-39, but now stand at 56-37. Men were against by a 43-50 margin last fall, but have moved barely in support, 45-43.
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
Updated: Important Prop8 appeal activity today
The Supreme Court of California will make an important ruling today on the Federal court case challenging Prop8.
Why is the STATE court involved in a FEDERAL case? because the 9th District Court of Appeals has two questions before it: one, how to address the finding of Judge Vaughn Walker that Prop8 is unconstitutional to LGBT citizens, and second, whether anyone has STANDING to appeal Judge Walker's decision.
Technically, because Prop8 was voted into law, the responsibility for defending it in court rests with the state of California. But neither the governor nor attorney general wants to defend it, because they agree it is unconstitutional. So the Prop8 proponents stepped it.
The Federal court is deferring to the State court to explain whether, under state law, the proponents have the right to appeal.
From the LA TImes:
UpdateA lot of fuss about very little. What they decided was.... they will take up the question. (They could have decided to ignore it). Wow. The notoriously slow SCoCal will now deliberate further, and probably won't even hold a hearing until fall 2011.
The delay here, while frustrating, means that repealing prop8 AT THE BALLOT BOX in 2012 is a much surer way to get marriage back in CA than waiting for the appeals process to work itself out.
Why is the STATE court involved in a FEDERAL case? because the 9th District Court of Appeals has two questions before it: one, how to address the finding of Judge Vaughn Walker that Prop8 is unconstitutional to LGBT citizens, and second, whether anyone has STANDING to appeal Judge Walker's decision.
Technically, because Prop8 was voted into law, the responsibility for defending it in court rests with the state of California. But neither the governor nor attorney general wants to defend it, because they agree it is unconstitutional. So the Prop8 proponents stepped it.
The Federal court is deferring to the State court to explain whether, under state law, the proponents have the right to appeal.
From the LA TImes:
Depending on the [state] court’s ruling, the 9th Circuit could either dismiss the Proposition 8 appeal on procedural grounds -- limiting the case’s effect to California -- or rule on federal constitutional questions that would affect same-sex marriage throughout the country.
UpdateA lot of fuss about very little. What they decided was.... they will take up the question. (They could have decided to ignore it). Wow. The notoriously slow SCoCal will now deliberate further, and probably won't even hold a hearing until fall 2011.
The delay here, while frustrating, means that repealing prop8 AT THE BALLOT BOX in 2012 is a much surer way to get marriage back in CA than waiting for the appeals process to work itself out.
Tuesday, February 15, 2011
Economic benefits of equality in Little Rhody
The Prop8trialtracker points us to a report (PDF) from the Williams Institute showing that Rhode Island could benefit from marriage equality.
a new research study released by the Williams Institute shows that allowing same-sex couples to marry in Rhode Island would boost the state budget by more than $1 million over three years…..
In calculating the net benefit to the State, the study predicts that half of Rhode Island’s 2,097 same-sex couples, or 1,048 couples, will be married within three years after the legislation is passed. This estimate includes about 440 couples who may have already married in the neighboring states of Massachusetts and Connecticut, which allow same-sex couples to wed.
Most of the new revenue to the state is gained through increased income taxes paid by married same-sex couples.
Monday, February 14, 2011
Why it matters: a little respect
Marine Veteran John Fliszar wanted his ashes interred at the US Naval Academy. What happened? The Naval Academy treated a spouse like a spouse.
(H/T JCF)
[Mark] Ketterson contacted the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis and told them that Fliszar, Class of ’71, had wanted to have his ashes interred at the USNA’s Columbarium, a serene white marble waterside crypt next to the school’s cemetery.
The memorial coordinator asked about his relationship to the deceased. Ketterson said that John Fliszar was his husband.
“They were always polite, but there was this moment of hesitation,” Ketterson recalled. “They said they’re going to need something in writing from a blood relative. They asked, ‘Are you listed on the death certificate?’ ‘Do you have a marriage license?’ ”
He was and they did, the couple having been married in Des Moines when gay marriage became legal in Iowa two years ago.
Ketterson sent a copy of the marriage license. That changed everything.
“I was respected,” he said. “From that moment on, I was next of kin. They were amazing.”
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The USNA says Fliszar’s interment followed standard operating procedure.
“His next of kin was treated with the same dignity and respect afforded to the next of kin of all USNA grads who desire interment at the Columbarium,” said Jennifer Erickson, a spokesperson for the academy. “We didn’t do anything differently.”
Shipmate magazine, the publication of the USNA’s alumni association, ran Fliszar’s obituary. It noted his two Purple Hearts for “having been shot down from the sky twice in military missions.” It noted “for the rest of his life he would joke about his ‘government issued ankle.’ ” It noted “his burly but warmly gentle manner.” It noted he was “survived by his husband, Mark Thomas Ketterson.”
“The word ‘husband’ in the obituary has created a bit of a stir,” said Ketterson, a Chicago social worker. “I’ve heard from a number of officers. It’s been amazing. This has not been absolutely confirmed, but I think I’m the first legal same-sex spouse who planned a memorial.”
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A marriage certificate was the key that let the USNA know how to treat Ketterson in relation to his husband’s service. Gays in the military and gay marriage are thought of as separate issues, but without legal gay marriage, or at least civil unions, how can the military know who gets the folded flag?
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“I am a patriotic American, but I know this is not a perfect world,” [KEtterson] said. “The point is, when the chips are down, when the issue was patriotism and honor for a veteran, they were wonderful. Whatever their private feelings, they made me proud to be an American. We really do get it right sometimes.”
(H/T JCF)
Sunday, February 13, 2011
Positive imagery (video Sunday)
Okay, we love GLEE when we remember to watch it. It is the most affirming TV show for gay kids. Love this number!
Saturday, February 12, 2011
Marriage repeal not popular in NH
New Hampshire survey shows citizens don't want to repeal marriage. A PDF here)
As Joe Sudbay notes, We'll see who NH legislators listen to: their constituents or the homophobes.
But the "true believers" aren't interested in their constituents. It's why the Republicans in Congress are bringing up bills about the Healthcare plan and abortion, and cutting the budget, rather than doing anything about jobs. Yet employment is the primary issue for the constituents. The overwhelming majority of Americans just want Congress to do stuff that's useful, and to work together for the common good, to rein in Wall Street and the banks, and invest in our future. Instead, we get the tea party. Our representative democracy seems seriously, seriously broken.
There is strong opposition to a bill that would repeal same-sex marriage in New Hampshire – only 29% of New Hampshire adults support the repeal of the 2009 law that legalized same-sex marriage in New Hampshire ….“Strong opponents of repealing same-sex marriage outnumber strong proponents by a factor of 2 to 1,” said Andrew Smith, Director of the UNH Survey Center. “Politically, this is represents powerful resistance to changing the current law.”
As Joe Sudbay notes, We'll see who NH legislators listen to: their constituents or the homophobes.
But the "true believers" aren't interested in their constituents. It's why the Republicans in Congress are bringing up bills about the Healthcare plan and abortion, and cutting the budget, rather than doing anything about jobs. Yet employment is the primary issue for the constituents. The overwhelming majority of Americans just want Congress to do stuff that's useful, and to work together for the common good, to rein in Wall Street and the banks, and invest in our future. Instead, we get the tea party. Our representative democracy seems seriously, seriously broken.
Friday, February 11, 2011
Legalizing Discrimination in Utah
From the Salt Lake City Trib, a discussion of a representative who things religious liberty is a valid reason for discrimination. We no longer link to the SLC Trib.
Thursday, February 10, 2011
Legalizing Discrimination in Iowa
From the Des Moines Register:
It would be legal for an Iowa business owner who cites religious beliefs to refuse to provide jobs, housing, goods or services to people involved in a marriage that violates his or her religious convictions, according to a bill an Iowa House subcommittee will consider on Wednesday.So far this bill is not moving, which is something, I suppose. Tomorrow: a similar bill in Utah that could ban Mormons. Really......
House Study Bill 50, called the Religious Conscience Protection Act, would allow a person, business or organization such as a charity or fraternal group to deny services without fear of facing a civil claim or lawsuit if they think doing so would validate or recognize same-sex relationships.
The same-sex exclusion is by itself constitutionally troubling, several legal scholars and civil rights activists said.
However, the bill is so broad that it would legalize a wide spectrum of other discriminatory acts, they said. They raised questions about whether services could be denied if, say, a Christian were married to a Jew or if a woman who is 60 married a man who is half her age and the couple could not procreate.
Updated: Maggie Gallagher working for marriage equality in Maryland?
So, the Maryland Senate is discussing a bill for marriage equality. Apparently, the strident opposition of NOM and its high priestess Maggie Gallagher may have backfired:
Update Here is Senator Brochin's statement:
The Senate Judicial Proceedings committee heard 7 hours of testimony last night on whether or not to legalize gay marriage, including from NOM’s Maggie Gallagher. Now one Senator, who was previously a foe, has said her testimony convinced him to support marriage equality.If you look at the polls, nationally, support for marriage equality is about 50-50. And of those who don't support marriage, a substantial fraction support some sort of civil unions. The hard-core demonization of LGBT people by Maggie and her friends turns off those in the reachable middle. THey may not be fully comfortable with marriage per se, but they don't see themselves as bigoted. And the more hysterical Maggie becomes, the more those people will recoil with revulsion from being grouped with her.
Senator James Brochin (D) was one of the few Democrat Senators who was opposed to gay marriage. But after listening to testimony from Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization For Marriage (NOM), he’s said that her “demonization” of gay families has convinced him that he should side with marriage equality.
Update Here is Senator Brochin's statement:
“What I witnessed from the opponents of the bill was appalling.” Brochin said. “Witness after witness demonized homosexuals, vilified the gay community, and described gays and lesbians as pedophiles. I believe that sexual orientation is not a choice, but rather people are born one way or another The proponents of the bill were straightforward in wanting to be simply treated as everyone else, and wanted to stop being treated as second-class citizens.
Brochin added, “For me, the transition to supporting marriage has not been an easy one, but the uncertainty, fear, and second-class status that gays and lesbians have to put up with is far worse and clearly must come to an end.”
Wednesday, February 9, 2011
NOM: take the rainbow back from the gays
Words fail. From People for the American way:
The leader of a National Organization for Marriage (NOM) affiliate has demanded that opponents of marriage equality reclaim the rainbow from “the gay lobby.” Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse, the founder and head of the Ruth Institute, which describes itself as “a project of the National Organization for Marriage,” told the right-wing American Family News Network’s OneNewsNow that the rainbow should be the symbol of Prop 8 supporters and Religious Right activists because "the rainbow is a sign of God's covenant with man." According to Morse, who was also a speaker on NOM’s “Summer for Marriage” bus tour, the rainbow has been wrongly appropriated by the LGBT community. ....
The main campaign of the Ruth Institute is “Gay Marriage Affects Everyone,” a seminar led by Morse on the dangers of same-sex marriage. Among the ways “gay marriage affects everyone,” writes Morse, include the notions that “same sex marriage will marginalize men from the family” and “increase the power of the state over civil society.”
Tuesday, February 8, 2011
Evolving marriage
An article summarizing the testimony by Nancy Cott, one of the PRop8 trial's expert witnesses:
Marriage has evolved into a civil institution through which the state formally recognizes and ennobles individuals’ choices to enter into long-term, committed, intimate relationships and to build households based on mutual support. With the free choice of the two parties and their continuing consent as foundations, marriage laws treat both spouses in a gender-neutral fashion, without regard to gender-role stereotypes.
At least, most of the time. Except in Massachusetts, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Washington, D.C., men may only marry women, and women may only marry men. This requirement is an exception to the gender-neutral approach of contemporary marriage law and to the long-term trend toward legal equality in spouses’ marital roles.
Those who would maintain this exception argue that the extension of marital rights to same-sex couples would render marriage meaningless. They say that the sexual union of a man and a woman, capable of producing children, is essential to marriage and is its centerpiece.
The history of marriage laws tells a more complex story. The ability of married partners to procreate has never been required to make a marriage legal or valid, nor have unwillingness or inability to have children been grounds for divorce.
And marriage, as I have argued, has not been one unchanging institution over time. Features of marriage that once seemed essential and indispensable proved otherwise. The ending of coverture, the elimination of racial barriers to choice of partner, the expansion of grounds for divorce—though fiercely resisted by many when first introduced—have strengthened marriage rather than undermining it. The adaptability of marriage has preserved it.
Marriage persists as simultaneously a public institution closely tied to the public good and a private relationship that serves and protects the two people who enter into it. That it remains a vital and relevant institution testifies to the law’s ability to recognize the need for change, rather than adhere rigidly to values or practices of earlier times.
Enabling couples of the same sex to gain equal marriage rights would be consistent with the historical trend toward broadening access. It would make clearer that the right to marry represents a profound exercise of the individual liberty central to the American polity.
Monday, February 7, 2011
Prop8 appeal: next step this week?
From the SF Gate:
Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakayue says the California Supreme Court will decide soon, maybe next week, on whether to enter the Proposition 8 gay marriage fray.
The 9th U.S. Court of Appeals said last month that it cannot decide if the gay marriage ban is constitutional until the state high court weighs in on whether proposition sponsors have authority to defend the measure.
A three-judge panel asked the California Supreme Court to decide if ballot proposition backers can step in to defend voter-approved initiatives in court when state officials refuse to do so. The panel suggested it would have to dismiss the case if there's no state high court input.
Sunday, February 6, 2011
Thursday, February 3, 2011
Gays disproportionately affected by hate crimes
From The Southern Poverty Law Center, which recently declared some of the most prominant anti-gay groups as hate groups, a review of hate crime data.
Although the rash of student suicides drew major media attention for a few days, the reality, gay rights advocates say, is that the LGBT world has been plagued by hate violence for years.
But that’s not the way a hard core of the anti-gay religious right sees it.....anti-gay leaders instead blamed those who sought to protect students from bullying.... Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel said those activists want “to use the tragedies to increase pressure on the real victims: Christians.”
....[B]ullying is only the beginning of the violence experienced by gays in American society. The reality is that homosexuals or perceived homosexuals are by far the group most targeted in America for violent hate crimes, according to an Intelligence Report analysis of 14 years of federal hate crime data. The bottom line: Gay people are more than twice as likely to be attacked in a violent hate crime as Jews or blacks; more than four times as likely as Muslims; and 14 times as likely as Latinos.
A Changing Landscape
Remarkably, most Americans today seem to have a sense of the violence that the LGBT community is regularly subjected to, or in any event are increasingly rejecting extreme religious-right narratives about the alleged evils of homosexuality. An October poll by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute found that 65% of Americans believe “places of worship contribute to higher rates of suicide among gay and lesbian youth” (33% said “a lot” and 32% said “a little”). Seventy-two percent said places of worship “contribute to negative views of gay and lesbian people” (40% said “a lot” and 32% said “a little”).....
Digging In
It is in just such situations — when long-held societal notions about blacks, Latinos, Catholics, homosexuals or other minorities are shifting — that violent backlashes often set in. As groups like Focus on the Family have moderated their positions on homosexuality, a hard core of anti-gay groups, sensing they are being politically marginalized, seem to be growing angrier and more radical still....
A leading criminologist and sociologist of hate crimes, Jack Levin of Northeastern University, sees evidence of the growing radicalization of the fringe in other ways. He says perpetrators of anti-gay hate crimes appear to be getting older. No longer are they dominated by teens engaging in thrill-seeking with predatory gangs of their peers. More and more, he says, lone adults are committing what Levin calls “defensive hate crimes” — crimes carried out in reaction to sweeping social changes that they see as threats to their home, family, religion, culture or country.
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[T}he hard core of the anti-gay religious right is digging in.
Wednesday, February 2, 2011
Please explain something to me.
The argument used by the anti-marriage equality side is that marriage is about procreation, and since gays can't procreate by hot man-on-woman sex, they can't marry. (Those straight couples who don't/won't/can't procreate apparently don't count.)
How does preventing gays from marrying have any effect on marital procreation?
Put in other words, how come if gays can marry, straight people apparently will stop having babies?
Thank you.
How does preventing gays from marrying have any effect on marital procreation?
Put in other words, how come if gays can marry, straight people apparently will stop having babies?
Thank you.
Tuesday, February 1, 2011
Iowa House passes marriage repeal
From One Iowa
The Iowa House today, by a vote of 62-37, passed an amendment (House Joint Resolution 6) that would deny any form of legal recognition for gay couples. The amendment seeks to prohibit not only the freedom to marry for gay couples, but also civil unions or domestic partnerships.Because they hate us. No other meaning for it: they hate us.
The bill now moves on to the Iowa Senate, where Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal has vowed to fight attempts to pass the amendment. If passed through both legislative bodies in two consecutive General Assemblies, the issue could be on the ballot as soon as 2013....
“This goes beyond politics,” said Iowa City resident Katie Imborek. “This is about our family and the ability for Paula and me to care for one another and our two children. At a time when so many Iowans are struggling just to make ends meet, I don’t understand why legislators would choose to take up this issue.”
Marriage Repeal Bill Introduced in NH
From the Concord Monitor (my emphases)
A bill repealing the state's gay marriage law would use the same statute to prohibit both incest and same-sex marriage.
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It [states], "The vast majority of children are conceived by acts of passion between men and women - sometimes unintentionally." Because of that, the bill states, the state has an interest in protecting the union of men and women to increase the likelihood that children will be born and raised by their natural parents.
Bates's bill lists the marriages that would be prohibited to all men and women. Besides same-sex partners, they include marriages to their children, aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews.
The bill states that any marriage recognized by New Hampshire before the adoption of the law would remain intact. But any same-sex marriage performed out of state after the law is passed - for example, a marriage performed in Massachusetts - would not be recognized as valid in New Hampshire.
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Gay marriage became legal in New Hampshire in January 2010. Since then, nearly 1,000 same-sex couples have married.
House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt said recently that repealing gay marriage is not a priority for House leadership, and he will ask the House Judiciary Committee to retain Bates's bill until 2012. The final decision will be up to the committee, which is led by Amherst Republican Rep. Robert Rowe. A public hearing has not yet been scheduled.
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